Have you ever met an elder in a Presbyterian church who is also a practicing psychiatrist and a self-confessed CCEF addict? In this episode, Winston Smith and Myriam Hertzog talk with John Applegate. John tells his story about how he came to live in both the world of biblical counseling and psychiatry and the benefits that Christians can gain in learning from psychiatry.

Cast
Dr. John Applegate
Winston Smith
Myriam Hertzog

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