David Powlison & worship leader Bob Kauflin chat about the similar roles of a worship leader and a Christian counselor during a break at the 2009 CCEF National Convention.

David Powlison (CCEF) & Bob Kauflin (Sovereign Grace Ministries) in Conversation (Part 2 of 2) Click here for Part 1

A few tidbits from this conversational feast:

Bob Kauflin
"In both counseling & worship we can rely on technique & forget all we have is Christ."

"Leading worship is a pastoral function before it's a musical one."

David Powlison
"Way more often than we imagine, people need reminding, not informing."

"The world in which we counsel is the same world in which we worship & pray."

"The word 'technique' is actually offensive in ministry."